Season 1, Episode 2: The Blues Epistemology, Trading Licks in Blues Time from the Bottom of the Belly

Episode 2 of Antipod is the second in a two-part series dedicated to the life, work, and wisdom of Dr. Clyde Adrian Woods. This episode builds on the conversation that Akira and Brian had in the Episode 1, which engaged with a pair of panel discussions held in 2018 at the New Orleans Community Book Center and the American Association of Geographers (AAG) Annual Meeting. The panels focused on Dr. Woods’s Development Drowned and Reborn: The Blues and Bourbon Restorations of Post-Katrina New Orleans, edited by Jordan T. Camp and Laura Pulido (University of Georgia Press, 2017). In Episode 2, hosts Allison Guess and Alex Moulton dive deeper on themes presented in Episode 1, especially Woods’s notion of the Blues Epistemology. Allison and Alex trade licks with Dr. Woods, Sunni Patterson, and Dee-1, among others and craft a multi-layered understanding of the Blues Epistemology. They do so in conversation with “No One Knows the Mysteries at the Bottom of the Ocean,” which is the opening chapter of Black Geographies and the Politics of Place (Between the Lines Press, 2007), a book co-edited by Dr. Woods and Dr. Katherine McKittrick (Queen’s University, Canada).

As Allison and Alex unfold the notions of “the underside,” “the bottom of the belly,” and “Blues time,” Allison and Alex refer to and draw upon a panel organized by the Antipod Sound Collective at the 2019 American Association of Geographers Annual Meeting in Washington, D.C. That panel, titled “Creating a Soundscape of Radical Imagination: Podcasts as Scholarship,” involved a conversation among the Antipod Sound Collective members and Nerve V. Macaspac (Assistant Professor, College of Staten Island, City University of New York).

As in Episode 1, we would like to thank participants in the Community Book Center and AAG panels, namely: former Woods student and activist-poet Sunni Patterson; Khalil Shahyd, Senior Policy Advocate at the National Resource Defense Council; Anna Brand, Assistant Professor at the University of California at Berkeley; Shana Griffin from Jane’s Place, New Orleans’ first community land trust; Sue Mobley, who, at the time of the panel, was the Public Programs Manager for the Albert and Tina Small Center for Collaborative Design at Tulane University; and Jordan T. Camp (editor) who, at the time of the panel, was at Barnard College, and is now the Director of Research at the People’s Forum in New York.


Our theme music is “It’s Not Jazz” by Tronx.…TronxItsNotJazz.mp3

Our interstitial music in this episode is: “I Am Who I Am” by Dee-1 featuring Shamarr Allen (Produced by Shamarr Allen); “When the Levee Breaks,” by Kansas Joe and Memphis Minnie; and “Attention” by Dee-1 featuring Sunni Patterson (Produced by Mystro).

Our outro music for this episode is from a live performance of the New Orleans-based New Breed Brass Band, recorded on January 18, 2019 at the Crystal Bay Club in Crystal Bay, Nevada.

Music from all of these artists is available on and licensed under Creative Commons 3.0.



Community Book Center:

Sunni Patterson: and

Sue Mobely: FORMERLY

Shana Griffin: and

Anna Brand:

Jordan Camp: FORMERLY

Khalil Shahyd:


Make sure to follow us on Twitter! @ThisIsAntipod and Instagram @antipod2019 and subscribe to our podcast. Follow Allison on Twitter @AllisonGuess1

Many thanks to The Antipode Foundation for their generous support.

Episode 2 is written/hosted by Allison Guess and Alex Moulton.

The episode was mixed and edited by Darren Patrick/dp.

This episode was produced by all members of the Antipod Sound Collective.

Please cite as: Antipod Sound Collective. “Episode 2: The Blues Epistemology, Lick Trading in Blues Time from the Bottom of the Belly.” Written/hosted by Allison Guess and Alex Moulton, edited by Darren Patrick/dp. October 30, 2019.


Woods, Clyde. 2017. Development Arrested: The Blues and Plantation Power in the Mississippi Delta. 2nd Edition. London: Verso. 

Woods, Clyde. 2017. Development Drowned and Reborn: The Blues and Bourbon Restorations in Post-Katrina New Orleans. Edited by Jordan T. Camp, and Laura Pulido. Athens, GA: University of Georgia Press. 

Woods, Clyde and Katherine McKittrick. “No One Knows the Mysteries at the Bottom of the Ocean.” In Black Geographies and the Politics of Place, edited by Clyde Woods and Katherine McKittrick. Toronto: Between the Lines Press.

Woods, Clyde and Katherine McKittrick, eds. 2007. Black Geographies and the Politics of Place. Toronto: Between the Lines Press. 

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